Evolution Misconception #5 – Evolution is Atheistic

Assertion:

Evolution is atheistic.

Answer:

Evolution is a science.  It neither requires one to reject God, nor does it require one to believe that a God exists. Whether or not God exists is a non-issue.  People who ‘believe’ in evolution include believers and non-believers in a Higher Being.

Application:

The next time you hear/read the statement that evolution is atheistic, tell yourself and your children, ‘Evolution is a science.  It does not require us to reject God and be an atheist.’

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Posted on Wednesday, March 23rd, 2011, in Atheism, Evolution, Misconceptions, Young Earth Creationism. Bookmark the permalink. 9 Comments.

  1. I actually had an ‘discussion’ about this with our deacon once–and the difference between calling evolution a-theistic (not requiring God to accomplish) and calling it atheistic (insisting that God does not exist).

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  2. “Evolution is a science.”

    Argument by assertion. It makes claims about unobservable, untestable, unrepeatable, past events. That pretty much rules it out as science.

    “It neither requires one to reject God, nor does it require one to believe that a God exists.”

    It is /designed/ to explain things without God, and it blatantly contradicts the biblical account, so at the very least it requires one to reject the God of the Bible.

    “Whether or not God exists is a non-issue. [for evolution, presumably]”

    Not according to many atheists and Christians.

    “People who ‘believe’ in evolution include believers and non-believers in a Higher Being.”

    Why is “believe” in quotes? The word “believe” is entirely appropriate in connection with evolution.

    And the important question is not belief in “a Higher Being”, but a belief in Yahweh, the Creator of the Universe and our Saviour, Jesus Christ. Yes, there are also believers in Jesus who believe in evolution. But that some believe in the atheists’ origin myth doesn’t mean that it’s not atheistic.

    Atheist Frank Zindler:
    “The most devastating thing though that biology did to Christianity was the discovery of biological evolution. Now that we know that Adam and Eve never were real people the central myth of Christianity is destroyed. If there never was an Adam and Eve there never was an original sin. If there never was an original sin there is no need of salvation. If there is no need of salvation there is no need of a saviour. And I submit that puts Jesus, historical or otherwise, into the ranks of the unemployed. I think that evolution is absolutely the death knell of Christianity.”

    Atheist and evolutionary scientist Richard Dawkins:
    “I think the evangelical Christians have really sort of got it right, in a way, in seeing evolution as the enemy. Whereas the more—what shall we say—sophisticated theologians who are quite happy to live with evolution, I think they’re deluded. I think the evangelicals have got it right, in that there really is a deep incompatibility between evolution and Christianity…”

    Theologian Albert Mohler:
    “…naturalistic evolution is the great intellectual rival to Christianity in the Western world. It is the creation myth of the secular elites and their intellectual weapon of choice in public debate.”

    Atheist and evolutionary scientist William Provine:
    “…belief in modern evolution makes atheists of people. One can have a religious view that is compatible with evolution only if the religious view is indistinguishable from atheism.”

    Application:
    The next time you hear/read the statement that ‘Evolution is a science. It does not require us to reject God and be an atheist.’, tell yourself and your children that evolution is about the unobservable past, hence untestable by science, it completely contradicts the biblical account, and a common result of believing it is atheism.

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    • ‘The next time you hear/read the statement that ‘Evolution is a science. It does not require us to reject God and be an atheist.’, tell yourself and your children that evolution is about the unobservable past, hence untestable by science, it completely contradicts the biblical account, and a common result of believing it is atheism.’

      I told myself this for many years, and was encouraged to think this way by my church and other YECs.

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  3. I find it ironic that you think I was encouraged to think a different way by those who believe in evolution, considering that the charge I often hear from YECists is that people believe in evolution because they don’t hear both sides of the story. ‘If they had the opportunity to hear both sides and examine the evidence, they would see that evolution is nothing more than a fairy tale!’ This was spoken at my church.

    I changed because I was encouraged to examine the issues by YECists! (Did you think it might have been the other way?)

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  4. “I find it ironic that you think I was encouraged to think a different way by those who believe in evolution…”

    Well I’m sure that it wasn’t creationists who encouraged you to believe in evolution!

    “…the charge I often hear from YECists is that people believe in evolution because they don’t hear both sides of the story.”

    A charge supported by plenty of testimonies. The odd exception doesn’t invalidate the rule. In any case, your knowledge of creationism is obviously lacking (I’ve pointed out several errors), so I wonder if you really have heard both sides of the story adequately.

    “I changed because I was encouraged to examine the issues by YECists! (Did you think it might have been the other way?)”

    That implies that you acknowledge that evolutionists don’t encourage people to study both sides of an issue, which is, of course, the case.

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    • ‘Well I’m sure that it wasn’t creationists who encouraged you to believe in evolution!’

      No, not ‘encouraged’. ‘Led me to’.

      “In any case, your knowledge of creationism is obviously lacking (I’ve pointed out several errors), so I wonder if you really have heard both sides of the story adequately.”

      Well, thank you for coming to my blog and correcting my errors in understanding what YEC is about.

      Let’s see:
      1) God created the universe and everything in it roughly 6,000 years ago.

      2) The Biblical account of Creation and everything in Genesis 1-11 is factually correct and any and all science undertaken must agree with the Biblical account. True science always agrees with the Bible.

      3) Any theory of origin that differs from the Biblical account MUST be false.

      That is YEC in a nutshell.

      Furthermore, evolution – the main contender of creationism – is false because:

      1) It is not science being not testable.

      2) It is unbiblical.

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      • Your “YEC in a nutshell” is essentially correct insofar as it goes, although it omits things like /why/ all that is important (refuting arguments that serve to undermine the Bible, and thereby showing that the Bible can be trusted).

        Your “evolution is false” bit is simplified to the point of being misleading. For one, evolution not being science, apart from being an oversimplification itself, doesn’t mean that it’s false. It IS false, but not for that reason.

        Second, it’s not “unbiblical” in the sense that the Bible doesn’t mention it, but in the sense that it contradicts the Bible.

        But all of that seems like a distraction. You’ve taken one point in my original comment here and basically said that you used to think the way I do but have changed your mind. What you’ve not done is actually address any of the arguments I made refuting your post.

        I have shown your implicit claim that there is no contradiction between the Bible and evolution to be wrong, and have shown that evolution undermines the Bible, but you ignore all that as though it doesn’t matter.

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